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Muddy Waters
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Don't give them 2019
by snare&racket ini am writing the post i have wanted to write for some time.
it's a heartfelt note to those still attending meetings, still caught between the lines of watchtower and the world.
those with kids or a spouse in the society..... despite being mentally out....those who have weighed up that there is too much to lose in leaving.
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Muddy Waters
- The life of the fleshly organism
- loose conduct / brazen conduct
- fornication / porneia
- make the truth your own
- kiss the son lest God be angry, and you-ooo perish in the way....
- Dark days are here! Man lives in fear! Wickedness is alllll around...
- bounteous blessings
- Jehovah’s favour
- read the Day’s text
- guard your heart (your treacherous, deceptive heart)
- Jehovah and his organization
- Jehovah and his spirit-directed-organization
- Jehovah and his faithful & discrete slave
- turn in your field service reports
- make Jehovah’s heart glad
- in the new system
- this old system
- this old, dying, decaying world
- worldly people
- higher education
- secular employment
- what do we do with our recreation time
- give your full attention to the next talk/ next speaker ...
- how happy are we to...
- serve Jehovah
- loyal love
- render the marital due
- be in submission
- God loves a cheerful giver
- are you making sacrifices for the Kingdom
- special pioneer / regular pioneer / auxiliary pioneer
- exemplary
- dress and grooming
- conduct
- forms of recreation and entertainment
- meeting attendance, prayer, study, service, good association
- example to the flock
- disfellowshipped/ disassociated
- spiritually weak
- drifting away
- lukewarm/ be spit out
- cast into the lake of fire
- dead with no resurrection hope
- sinning against the spirit
- kicking against the goads
- gnashing of teeth
- despicable thing (causing desolation)
- working what is obscene
- guard the tongue/ guard your hearts
- be wise my son
- and they will know that a prophet was in their midst
- the Great and Fear-Inspiring Day of Jehovah God the Almighty
- utterance
- proclamation
- judgment message
- consider these things, ponder these things
- imitate their faith
- glorious ones
- humble yourselves
- obey, obey, obey, etc., and *probably* you *may* get saved...
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Geez, I could go on and on... I guess I really was paying more than the usual attention all those dreary years.....
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Great video! Essential oil cults and the similarity to religious groups
by stuckinarut2 inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsdriasvgtq.
this is a great video- well worth watching.. it shows how a multi-level marketing group that peddles psydo-science can be compared to a religious group..
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Muddy Waters
Ha, as a JW, we did enter a MLM scheme, not thinking it was a scheme, but one of the things which helped me wake up, was seeing the similarities between them!
.... giant sales meetings with same motivational talks, emotional manipulation, comparisons in presentations, sales figures and promotional products (magazine placements, bible studies).... so much is the same.
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Sometimes it's the little things....
by dubstepped ini'm listening to a podcast where a former elder describes how another elder conducted the watchtower study about hyperbole.
the elder called it hyper-bowl.
soon the whole congregation called it hyper-bowl.
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Muddy Waters
One word which stands out for me is the name describing the language of the Philippines, Tagalog.
Having known a Sister from the Philippines, she educated me on the proper pronunciation of her language, taGAH-lug. (NOT “Tag-a-log”, as most brothers would say from the Platform....)
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My JW Elder Brother Passed Away
by minimus inhe was basically a good man, just a believer in the religion.
when we were both elders we were best of friends and then things deteriorated when i was not an elder for a while.
then after becoming an elder again, i slowly drifted away from the religion and he drifted further away from me.
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Muddy Waters
So sorry for your loss. It sounds like your brother’s wife and daughter are behaving with actual compassion.
... Walk gently.
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Did You Ever Luke ANY Songs From The “Songbook “?
by minimus ini went on line looking for old jw songs and some of them were pretty good and some were just awful!.
did you ever like any of those songs?
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Oh my god, remember the song that began dark and dirgy then light and happy...?
“DARK DAYS ARE HERE! MAN LIVES IN FEAR! In dire expectation....”
”... but the bible holds out a hope for the dead! ... tra la la la de boop and true peace there will be...”
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Cart witnessing at the Toyota Grand Prix
by Dagney inpicture 185,000 people on the streets attending the biggest event in long beach.
there is a main downtown street which is the only way into the grand prix.
it’s chaos because it is not private property that can be contained; these are working boulevards with cars and people vying to get where they want to go.
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What gets me is how JWs are instructed (why???) to NOT APPROACH people, but to stand by or near the cart and let people approach them. Is it some legality?? And even if so, why should this stop, limit, or muzzle the Preaching of the Good News??
Can you imagine Jesus or his disciples or the apostles, etc., STANDING quietly in a CROWD of people, while waiting to be approached for a piece of literature or directive to a website??
I couldn’t even understand this when I was in... if our message is so urgent, so important, so life-saving, what the hell were we doing sitting in cars and coffee shops while strolling leisurely now and again to the odd door??
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You Know You're Starting To Wake Up When...
by pale.emperor inyou start listening to music deemed "unsuitable for christians".
you pretend to knock on the doors.
you explain a jw teaching to someone and realize how ridiculous it sounds.
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Ah! Thought of another one!
... You start wondering if you should even bother bringing meeting clothes or Bibles, etc. with you when you go on vacation or even camping!! — omg, do any of you remember doing this??
And then you would “bring back the love” from whatever congregation you visited while you were away! (In other words, look at me, I was a FAITHFUL Witness and went to a [stupid] meeting while on my [very rare] holiday! [Stupid me, what a putz!] Aren’t you all happy for me!? Now smile and rejoice and clap your hands to ‘accept the love’ and ‘return the love’!!) — Yet somewhere along the long, I heard they stopped doing this....
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You Know You're Starting To Wake Up When...
by pale.emperor inyou start listening to music deemed "unsuitable for christians".
you pretend to knock on the doors.
you explain a jw teaching to someone and realize how ridiculous it sounds.
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You start feeling less guilty missing a meeting and even feel like it can be justified now and again...
you wonder why it’s always the same people commenting again and again ...
.... the uplifting, spiritual gifts and tracts and songs etc just feel burdensome, trite, cumbersome, boring, same old....
and yes, “worldly” people don’t seem so bad and evil and awful and terrible... most of them are quite nice really!
All the study, meeting prep, travel, clothes, book bags, organizing literature and study material week after week... seems less and less biblical and spiritual...
... you get tired of insincere smiles and smiling, and wonder how Jehovah’s happy people are so miserable
... you begin to dread meeting nights, it feels like such a waste of time....
... you do less and less field service, another pointless unfruitful endeavour....
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I attended my 2nd exjw meetup and it was brilliant
by UnshackleTheChains ini decided to attend my 2nd scottish exjw meetup and what a blast.
so many experiences.
it was incredibly engaging to actually meet people in the flesh and hearing their personal stories.. the damage the watchtower organisation causes to peoples lives is absolutely disgusting.
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It sounds like HimselfIAm is channeling Yoda and Luke Skywalker with the help of a new age sage perhaps....